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Spendaholics is great

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  Posted 21 May 2005 - 03:13 AM

Am delighted to read that a second series has been commissioned, I've been an avid viewer of all ten episodes so far. I really wish I had Jay Hunt on hand to help me work out how to live on £80 a week for food and personal spending (I'm disabled and unable to work). I seem to spend as much on food for one as others would use to feed a family of four! A bit more detail on how she comes up with the new monthly budgets would be useful. I'm also impressed with Benjamin's insights. Will definitely be buying his book.
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 11:18 AM

Mel,

I share your pleasure at the thought of more Spendaholics to come!

I agree that the investigations into the emotional reasons for debt are wonderfully insightful (thanks to Bemjamin Fry) but there's very little in the programme on budget preparation.

That said, I think Spendaholics is unusual in covering the emotional angle, whereas there are lots of books and websites that already help with the nuts and bolts of money management.

There are plently that I've found easy to understanding and even inspiring, and I'll share the details if you'd find it helpful.

Good luck and best wishes.

Andy
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 11:21 AM

Sorry Benjamin. I know you're not Bemjamin!
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Posted 28 May 2005 - 11:15 AM

Any suggestions welcome, Andy. I've recently read THE RICHEST MAN IN BABYLON and am arranging my spending as it recommends (pay yourself first, save at least 10 percent for investment, put 20 percent towards debts) which is what gives me my eighty pound budget. Can you recommend anything that includes the basics of bookkeeping?
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Posted 28 May 2005 - 07:54 PM

Hi Mel,

Just to add my two-penneth worth, I borrowed a book from the library called 'Your Money or Your Life: A Practical Guide to Solving Your Financial Problems and Affording a Life You'll Love' by Alvin Hall, and I'd definitely recommend it. It includes sample balance sheets for personal spending, advises you to save a proportion of your wage, and that sort of thing, but in the short term just keep a diary of your spending so you can see where it all goes - after a month I could tell instantly where I needed to cut back! I keep a notebook with me at all times, and write down every single little thing I spend money on - it really makde a difference! You can decide what's important to you, what you could do without, and it was a big help to me. Then you budget for what you have to pay out in bills and so on, and how much you've got left. I made notes from the book before I returned it but I've just found it on www.amazon.co.uk for under £4 (used) if your library doesn't stock it.

Hope this helps!

Lizzie.
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 10:11 PM

Mel,

Lizzie's done a wonderful job of describing the approach that's taken in nearly all books on debt. I can support her recommendation of Alvin Hall. I think he's got a new series on TV later in the year, as well as several books.

If you really can't get round to budgetting on your own, have you considered contacting the Consumer Credit Counselling Service? Once you contact them, they arrange a telephone appointment at a time that suits you. In the meantime they post you a pack which explains how to go about working out your income, your essential spending and your debts. You get all the paperwork together, they call you at the time you both agreed, and then they go through creating a budget with you line by line. It really helps the process if you're providing answers to their questions, and they bring a lot of experience to the discussion, i.e. they know what an average person's phone or food bill is.

You end up with a monthly spending plan that they post to you, as well as solid advice about the best way to go forward with your debt.

They are top, top people. I know it sounds corny, but I felt a huge weight was lifted from my shoulders when I went through this process with them.

I can't recommend their help highly enough. It costs you nothing but the intial phone call to them, so there's almost nothing to lose.

I hope that's of some help.

Best wishes,

Andy
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 06:59 PM

Thanks again, Andy. I'm not actually in much debt any more (only a £500 overdraft now, I got out of serious debt with the help of the Citizens Advice Bureau in the first year I was disabled). What I guess I am really looking for is a book explaining how to live well on benefits or a low income without going into debt.
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 09:43 PM

Mel,

I'm pleased to hear that your debt is so (relatively) small. I know when I get down to only £500 I'll be a happy man (not that I'm too unhappy now!).

Can I ask something?

Is it the art of budgetting you want to know more about i.e. managing your money and being disciplined enough not to spend what you don't have?

Or is it more about getting more for your money i.e. living frugally, buying cheaply and making your money go further?

It's a subtle difference, but books tend to be written about one approach or the other. The best writer I've come across who combines both subjects is Mary Hunt. I can get more details if you're interested.

Best wishes,

Andy
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Posted 03 June 2005 - 07:01 PM

I'll look up Ms Hunt on Amazon. Have just finished a great feel good read that has given me most of the basics in terms of sorting out my bookkeeping - MAKE MONEY BE HAPPY by Carmel McConnell. Feel much happier despite staying up until five o'clock this morning getting everything onto Excel (and she's a Napoleon Hill fan too, which helps). It's quite realistic and doesn't take itself too seriously.

Now I'm just looking for the money saving/frugal living kind of thing but to implement most of the tips I've found I'd need my own house (insulation), a garden (grow vegetables) and a car (buy in bulk) - none of which I have. Siggh.
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 12:47 PM

I'm writting a book on emotional spending. Since you are such a well researched customer, would you like to suggest what you might like to see in such a book?
visit benjaminfry.co.uk for more information on my work

support getstable.org for better mental health treatment in the UK
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 04:18 AM

Maybe in your book you could include some of the practical ways from your series about how to save money, or get what you want at a reasonable price. I liked the places you went like the restaurant where depending on what time you arrive, that is what you spend on your meal - good on the restauarnat that does that - and the other place Jay went to buy cut price designer clothes. But for the program, I wouldn't have known that such a restaurant existed.

I can add a practical idea, for people like me who love movies - getting an unlimited movie card from UGC. This only costs £9.99 a month outside London and not much more in the West End, and means you can go to as many in a month as you want. It makes for a very cheap night out - when was the last time movies cost less than £2 a pop, which is how much my card works out to.
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 11:50 AM

have you heard of Martin lewis?- he is the money saving guru on radio two and he is amazing! every month you can have an email sent to you about ways to save money and it's free - well worth a look. Only useful for the UK I think and I don't know where you are. I haven't got the details to hand, but try bbc.co.uk and go onto the radio two bit and you should find his details. He has saved me an absolute fortune!

Good luck :rolleyes:
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 12:00 PM

Ok I have found out his details www.moneysavingexpert.com

good luck :D
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Posted 08 June 2005 - 11:58 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions. I have watched the Alvin Hall series but he concentrates on families and couples issues so a lot isn't really relevant to singletons like myself. Is Martin Lewis also one of the guys on Working Lunch (BBC2)? I keep meaning to listen to Money Box on Radio 4 on Saturdays but I need to find a radio with the equivalent of a video recorder that will automatically switch channels at the correct time. I read the Weekend FT for the money section and seem to have most of the Motley Fool books.

I guess what I'd be looking for in a book on emotional spending would be how to develop the self discipline to not spend in the first place! I know what to do, why can't I do it?! The closest I've come to an answer was from a coaching book, TAKE TIME FOR YOUR LIFE by Cheryl Richardson. She seems to think that extreme self care puts you in a better emotional position so that self discipline will then evolve organically (though it hasn't so far). THE NEW MESSIES MANUAL made me wonder if I had ADHD (not financial but very useful if your house is a tip and a possible to clue to overshopping - because you can't find anything you buy several. I've unearthed a three month supply of mouthwash just this weekend).

I was really interested in the bits about getting your needs met in more appropriate areas than work in TAKE YOURSELF TO THE TOP by Laura Berman Fortgang (another US life coach) but they were spread throughout the book and difficult to find. A chapter on identifying what your emotional needs are (or could be) and imaginative strategies for getting them met in more than one area of your life would be extremely useful to me, personally. Hint. Hint.

Just re-read that and I sound like a Self Help junkie. I'm very discriminating though. I really hate the girly/peace love and mungbeans stuff (I may be a girl but I am NOT girly). My counsellor recommended "Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway" but after reading it I wanted to throw it in the bin with barbeque tongs so I didn't have to touch it. Everything comes back to applying self discipline but almost none explain how this can be achieved. There's definitely a gap in the market, Benjamin.
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Posted 20 June 2005 - 10:06 PM

I love the show too, even though I am not a spendaholic. But I used to have probs with food, and I think they're all kind of related. It's about time these issues are being faced head on in the media. Defo the only programme I care to watch at the mo, other than The Brothel, which tickles my morbid fascination, and psychological mind too.
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