Is it me? Looking for love!!
#1
Posted 16 July 2004 - 04:41 PM
#2
Posted 16 July 2004 - 10:37 PM
#3
Posted 19 July 2004 - 09:45 PM
You seem to have answered your first post with your second one better than I could have hoped to do. You have suffered a great tragedy in your life. Your prototype for relationships is one of separation and death. As an adult, you find that relationships ìopen up something in you and you feel insecureî. I would suggest that they open up the spectres of death and abandonment. Not wanting to deal with these heavy issues, you will find anyway to avoid them. this means finding reasons to end the relationships before they start.
Thereís always a good reason to end a relationship. Every man has his flaws. If you are going to give up on men without even talking through what concerns you then you will be able to go through the rest of your life saying you want a man, but never having one. On the other hand if you stick with a relationship, then you may have to continue the grieving process for your nuclear family and your father.
You shouldnít minimise what happened to you. It is about as rough a deal as you could get from the point of view of setting you up psychologically for healthy relationships. My mother died very young so I can assure you that if you are to allow yourself a long-term partner it will be at the expense of some hard inner work.
Thereís one crumb of comfort I can offer you and it is this: that which we most fear has already happened. For you, each time you begin to deepen in a relationship, particularly at your age when long term commitment is a headline issues, you will be coming face to face with tragedy. However, the tragedy has already happened. The future is still possible, but only if you face it with courage about the past.
You show this courage admirably in your second post. You also show an innate insight into your own issues. You might really enjoy the opportunity to talk this through with a therapist or counsellor. I suspect that you would make rapid progress on an inner level and this could relieve the pressure on the outer symptom of the sticky relationships.
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#4 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 31 July 2004 - 09:53 AM
Do you think I am attacting the wrong people to resolve my past traumas or is it because of the relationship that I had with my Father? Before my Father left home, I had a good relationship with him. He used to take my brother and I out swimming to the beach and all things like that. Maybe if I could reconnect with this healthy bond I had with him instead of the trauma he (I think unintentionally) left us with I could have more healthy relationships with men or hopefully one man!
Any suggestions as I find your insights very useful and have managed to connect to some quite deep and painful feelings in the last week. I have got the doctors to refer me for counselling on several occasions but have not followed through. I am starting a new job and will probably be able to afford private counselling then, so that is a possiblity. Although useful to me, I dont really want to use my romantic relations as a form of psychotherapy!!
#5
Posted 31 July 2004 - 04:07 PM
I think you are attracting the ìrightî people to resolve your past traumas. Thatís what we all do. Trouble is they are the ìwrongî people to create a Mills & Boon story line with. You see this clearly in the connections that you make with suicidal people.
Yours is a very clear example illustrating the simplicity and yet all pervasive depth of what I explain in my book and try to make relevant through this forum. You had a very sudden and extreme trauma relating to the man in your life. This is then played out through men that you know. This replaying of the circumstances that so wounded you actually provided the opportunities you need to emote. Itís not the life you want, but the life your emotions need.
So, if you want a ìbetterî life, get stuck into the emotional work on a voluntary basis rather than waiting for the next good-looking suicidal stranger to bounce you into a breakdown. If you get into the real psychotherapy then perhaps your unconscious mind will give you a break with the relationship workshops that you have been enduring. I always recommend mixing therapy with a bit of non-verbal healing, such as yoga or meditation, just to keep a balance and shift the energy in different ways.
Congratulations on your sobriety and your brave enduring attitude. I am sure that if you are prepared to take conscious steps back into the past, then your unconscious need for dysfunctional relationships will ease a little. It will be a long hard slog, but it should be worthwhile and definitely good for your son.
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#6
Posted 04 August 2004 - 02:00 PM
I do yoga although havent for a while and have come a long way emotionally already, so I feel very positive that I can create a happy future.
These 'right' people I have attracted have forced me to release painful emotions and look at life slightly differently.
The good thing about that is when I have cried out this pain, it is gone and I feel lighter and it cant harm me anymore. It is like walking through a minefield sometimes, and I never know when someones going to set something off in me!! I allow myself plenty of space though to remain in touch with myself and do try to 'process' traumas as they rise to the surface.
When you suggest meditation and looking into the past, what sort of things should I meditate on?
#7
Posted 04 August 2004 - 02:36 PM
Meditation is meant to be pleasant, harmonious and relaxing.
Try concentrating on breathing slowly and deeply and consider how essential breathing is to life. Breathe in and out smoothly and see it as a beautiful process that sustains you. Listen to your breathing - you will find the sound calming.
You can meditate by selecting a simple and pleasant idea ('peace', for instance) and concentrating on it. Your mind will wander off the subject naturally. Whenever you mind wanders, catch it and say to yourself 'I'll come back to that if I need to but, for now, I'm just thinking about Peace'. Keep this up for as long as possible until it starts to feel uncomfortable and then stop.
10-20 minutes is ideal (but I can never do more than about 8).
There are books on different forms of meditation. Find a book that describes a range of different methods and ideas and try each one that appeals to you out in turn. No need to make a big deal out of it - you can do it when travelling if you want (maybe not if you are driving though!
#8
Posted 05 August 2004 - 09:45 AM
There are some nice products from Gaiam on yoga and meditation which you may enjoy. Have a look in the review section of my website if it interests you.
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#9
Posted 16 February 2005 - 12:39 AM
I have started to see someone from the past more regularly now again and within a very short space of time these loss and abandonment issues have surfaced again. They just seem so difficult to deal with and I cant help pushing him away. Its not that I am rejecting the person, but rather the feelings that start to surface when I start to open up. It can be really difficult to distinguish the present from the past emotionally. Then I paint a really black picture of my partner in my head and reject him - This black picture is like an emalgumation of my Father, and all the men that have wronged me in the past. When I am with this particular person, he seems to bring back so many memories and this can cause problems even though he didn't create the original trauma.
How can I stop this happening. Even with the counselling this pattern hasn't stopped and now I am going to lose someone I was actually letting into my heart and I dont think he'd understand how deep these issues are. Also I am finding it difficult getting to know the real him rather than a heap of my own projections.
#10 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 16 February 2005 - 02:30 AM
#11
Posted 16 February 2005 - 10:26 AM
You now know that your ambitions in the present for a happy relationship are undermined by your trauma from the past. Presumably therefore you can see how impossible this was to cope with before you realised this connection. Now that you have this awareness it gives you the possibility of being able to separate the one from the other. Of course you are still going to suffer. You are going to hurt. You are going to be confused. And you are going to take it out on the man. But you might be able to argue about it less because you understand it better.
Something you will have to get used to is that these feelings will take a long time to disperse. By being in a relationship you are actually speeding up that process. You have noticed how a relationship triggers the feelings. Thatís partly what it is for. Your only task now is to separate how you feel from how you treat your man. Thatís the nub of it and an extraordinarily hard skill to master.
You canít stop the feelings. And you shouldnít want to. What you do need to stop is reacting to those feelings by needing to get rid of the man. Let him stay and let yourself feel. That is the path to a final resolution. It is also about the hardest thing you could try to do.
A good practical step is to open up about all of this to your man. You need to be able to say to him stuff like: ìI feel so much pain right now that I want to push you a million miles away. I know this pain comes from my past, but it feels like it comes from you. I want you to stay, but if you do Iím going to be behaving as if you make me miserable. Itís not your fault and if we stick with it, Iíll get better.î
The conclusion of my book is ìDonít change your life to change your feelings and donít change your feelings to change your life.î Presumably this injunction is now making sense to you, and you are also aware of why we hardly ever heed that advice. Staying with your feelings and not altering the reality that is stimulating them is the razor-edged path of the emotional master. Like any discipline, the better you get at it, the harder the exams become.
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#12
Posted 16 February 2005 - 08:22 PM
I feel really resentful that my present difficulties-when I should be having fun-all stem from my parents problems which they dumped on me - and I took on as my own. Why should I lose someone I care about because they didn't take responsbility for their actions. I am determined to see this through, but I guess if I have lost him already then I will have learned a valuable lesson. Hopefully soon I can start acting out of love and not pain.
#13
Posted 18 February 2005 - 12:06 PM
#14
Posted 19 February 2005 - 10:01 AM
How can all this misery be helping me? He plays with my mind and emotions and leaves me feeling kicked and bruised inside with his insults...despite my difficult upbringing my Father wasn't like that. How is making me feel so low that I want to end my own life help? Not that I would as I have a son, but the thought crosses my mind. I have been here before and just want someone to accept me the way I am.
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Posted 19 February 2005 - 11:42 PM













